ahaha, you make it sound like we're all a pack of maniacs behind the wheel


The Pantera you saw with the aero/big wheels is no more than a genstring change, doesn't help with performance, or anything else.
This was covered in the league thread at KSR, the one you have been posting in/reading.

As for the lack of redress, depends on the situation. Quite often most things are no more than a racing moment, like when I lost it at T1, and while trying to get off the racing line while sliding sideways ended up being collected by Dammit. That incident was not intentional, just one of those things.

I'm sure as hell not going to wait for someone who hit me after unintentionally losing control, nor do I expect them to wait for me, Racing incidents happen.

If it's more serious and you're unhappy, there is a protest system in place, one that actually works quite well. Use it, otherwise those few who may not be as cautious as you expect, or over aggressive will go unpunished.

Not everyone is as skilled as expected, and with 25 cars on the track things will always be hectic

When I was spun in the GT40 at Old Ring by a Porsche (Not sure who sorry) I didn't expect him to wait as the contact was not intentional. Wasn't like he went in with a dive bomb. it was no more than a racing incident and he should have carried on.

of course if it was an act of stupidity I'd have been a little annoyed but it wasn't.


EDIT: Replay watched, so incident removed as it wasn't a fair example.

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Yeah not all of the guys at KSR are nutters on the track, many are good clean racers for sure, and I enjoy racing with these guys.. guys like vandem, Drak, yourself if I can ever get near you and many others.

But I have seen a lot of unnecessary mayhem in only two races, the likes of which I haven't seen since leaving a place we here affectionately call Karlsville, or Ausfactor for those not up on our slang, lol.

As for redressing, since starting with rFActor almost 2 years ago each league I have raced in require redress, whether it is intentional or not. It is simply a matter of good sportsmanship Rifty. As for pushing someone offline to get the place, that too is heavily frowned upon at all Aussie leagues, again it shows poor sportsmanship if you cannot make the pass cleanly and so a redress is expected in every situation. When this behaviour is shown in more than one event the person is more than likely banned.

Tonight I was impacted by a car coming across the track, I did not slam into him, he hit me as I tried to avoid him. In such a case a redress is usually expected in any league in Oz I've raced at. Again, it's just good sportsmanship mate. If through your own lack of experience or bad luck you take someone off then you should take responsibility for it. I've done it many times and will continue to do so, just as I did in Round 1 on both occassions I was responsible for another driver being taken off the track. I would rather finish last than gain from anything I created that put others off.

I did read something about the genstring thing but wasn't sure what it was about, so seeing the full-on Pantera with wings and things was a bit of a surprise for this old fart. I wondered too if there is any aero advantage simply because of the body in use.

And as for the guy in 20th racing the guys in 16th and 17th after exiting the pits, that is just not on in any league I've raced with to date. Even moreso when that person then wants to argue about it in chat without looking at a replay to be sure they got their facts straight. That peeves me a bit, as it would with anyone.

In the end Rifty I am not having a go at all the KSR drivers. But, I am quite surprised for what passes so far for racing in a large field by so many who are racing this series. I suppose it comes down to we do things differently here as compared to there mate.

I see no reason as yet for a formal complaint as I am a newbie there and learning the differences of how things are run, but if it continues or gets worse then I will have to, even though I much prefer to discuss things in PM's with the driver concerned.

So, with no offence meant to your countrymen in my race report, are we good then?

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I guess what I'm getting at is that incidents happen and there is no need for both to be penalized position when it's not intentional, or just a 'racing incident'

Acts of utter stupidity shouldn't happen I agree, which sounds like that's what you may have been tied up in. Replays will be out today, sounds like they will be a fun watch

Don't be put off, they're all a great group of guys and sometimes those great guys, me included, make the odd error or two in the heat of the moment.

Flick Vandem a pm regarding your concerns with drivers not redressing situations, he's the best to have a chat with as he is a KSR admin and has run many a league.

I'm just sticking my 2c in

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All good Rifty, I'll be sticking with it mate. Can't not finish something I started..unless I heart attack or the teen-monster starts talking to me while I'm racing.. then it's all over red rover.

Looking forward to the Island next week, although them V8's will be long gone.

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Well have to fit a "SHEEP" bar to that Ess'y of yours Oldie so them kiwi's dont maul your car too much! If I had known they were sprint races I may have joined in the fun so if you cannot make it one night I"ll sub for you.
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This is how the Esky looked in Round 1 Race 2 Butters. Needless to say the panel beaters were not happy, the team's financial advisor was threatening to caveat my entire pension if I ever brought it home looking like this again.



Maybe we could add a heap of tyres around the car like they do with tug boats?

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"I was doing fine till mid corner I ran out of talent and spun the car"

What? Like this ...

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yep that might help but what about the sheep bars front and rear lol

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KSR Historic GTC-76 Round 3, Phillip Island.

I had a nice setup for this race and was hoping to get mid pack or better. See I told you these guys are bloody fast!

Good racing tonight, tough, fair, and only a little paint swapped.

Q1:- I slipped a bit on the first flyer then stuffed it on the 2nd so started in 23rd out of 29.

Race 1:- Gave room at the start for T1, etc, lost some places and then put my head down to climb up the placings then about 4 laps from the end stupid old fart showed up and looped it off the track.. dropped me down to 20-something. Finished in 13th. Very Happy with that. Solid racing with very little in the way of paint swapping.

Q2:- new PB and 13th on the grid. Much better.

Race 2:- Heaps of fun from the start. Lost some places to the V8's off the start line but managed to gather some back in. Stayed on track..woohoo.. and made it to 10th only after the Porsche in front lost it and let me through. Hard racing like that makes the game worthwhile.

And this was the best behaviour I've seen so far in the series, brilliant stuff. So we pack the Escort up tonight and fly her back to Adelaide for next weeks street race.

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With them sheep bars and tyres fitted they probably thought you were being serious and kept away from ya well done against them fast V8's
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Thanks Butters, silly old me forgot to tie the spare tyres on mate.

Small screenie from last night showing the close pack of four I battled with for half of Race 2...



And this is the championship points so far after 3 rounds...



So I'm not doing too shabby for my baptism of fire in UnZud against some some bloody quick drivers.

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Jeez, with all those Kiwis racing online who's looking after the sheep?

Do any of the cars pull off the track for a quick graze?

Yes I'm bored, have to resort to making cheap shots for entertainment.

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Adelaide GP : Round 4

Terrible night for me. I had a quick snooze on the lounge an hour before qualy and woke up just in time to get on server before qualifying began... not good trying to qualy when you need coffee.

Q1:- Lousy. Stuffed up the first flyer and wrecked the car.

R1:- 26th on the grid out of 29 starters. Made it past the T1 chicane and started to get into the racing, made some real passes and also got a couple of places by missing the carnage.. up to 11th place by lap 3 and really enjoying the competition with the other drivers, no quarter given and none asked for

It was great racing.. then on lap 7 for some reason I am yet to work out, the rear end let go on the fast kink in the back straight and it was into the wall with ya... at 100% damage that is the end of your race.

Q2:- Missed it... bloody neighbour knocked on the door for advice about teenagers

R2:- Very back of the grid this time.. 29th place! Made some moves before T1 chicane and managed to get through really well so that by the end of the lap I was in 18th and on the tail of guys ahead of me. Made some more moves, had someone put their nose down the inside where there was no room so I let him through anyway.. better safe than sorry I reckon.

Next lap around I passed a guy, he tried to pass me but tapped me up the date.. all good I thought I'm still facing the right direction, but as we turned onto East Terrace the car just looped around on me and all that good work was lost again.. back to 18th. Next lap around I was looking at the guys ahead of me and seeing I can make up a lot of time through the T1 chicane on them, and really pressed it this time... gently (and I do mean gently) touched a wall and that was the end of the race for me.

So that's two DNF's for this round. Not happy Jan, Jan? where the hell is Jan when you want someone to whinge at??

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That was a huge lose on the back straight Old Frt I had no idea where you were with all the smoke.

Sorry for the wee tap coming into the last corner, thankfully you didn't go around and we were able to carry on.

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LOL Rifty, that was all good with the tiny tap mate.. we both kept it straight and got around the bend well enough. Yeah huge lose after the kink on the back straight.. and I had that sorted really well in praccy so I could go through there flat out all night and not lose it. Shyte still happens apparently

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Timaru - Round 5

Terrible night started of badly. I downloaded the track when I first joined KSR using the link provided in the series thread. Did about 20 laps praccy on it and could not get to within 4 seconds of the quicker guys times they spoke about in the laptimes thread. So I decided to get on early tonight to get some decent praccy in and see how other guys are using the track.

Problem 1. Wrong track for some reason. So back to the series thread and re-download it again. Then mismatches, so back offline and play around a bit to get it sorted out.. all good the next time I go on. But, no setups anymore, so I asked for one and got sent one from a quicker Escort driver. Watched him for a lap and thought there is no way I am going to drive the thing like a rally driver.

Managed two full laps before going to qualy. Blew it in qualy.

Race 1. Made some changes to the setup and took lap 1 easy so I didn't take anyone out while still learning the track. Had a few offs from not knowing the braking points.. fortunately didn't take anyone out. Had some fun catching up the guys I was around each time I fell off.. so I was happy with that.

Q2. Better with a 1:09.7 but still 2.1 seconds from the front so ended up in 18th for the grid.

Race 2. Got a better start but still having trouble seeing through all the brake smoke into corners so had an off again. Got back to where I had been running and promptly put a wheel on the grass into the fastest corner entry on track... lost 4 places then.

Managed to catch up two of those places and stay on the tail of guys without tapping them in the twisty bits.. very happy with that. Then I was going into that same fast entry corner off the long straight and went down the inside of another Escort.. he moved across so I took to the grass... WRONG AGAIN. That grass is slipperier than anything and so I was off again.

Got the poo's with myself and pulled the pin, same as I did last night in the V8's. Got serious grumps over cutting back on ciggies as I get closer to the give up day in two weeks.

Hoping next week on another new track is better than this one.

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Crystal Palace - Round 5

Forget it two DNF's

Nords_Fall - Round 6 and Final in the Series.

Qualy:-
I managed 4th and in the dying seconds was pipped by a smidgeon so was still very happy with 5th on the grid.

Had a great setup for the Escort, and could run 8:28's easy so I was hoping for a good show this time.

Race:-
Got off the line brilliantly, but, the car in front of me stalled so I had to pull up and got stuck behind him as all the grid filed past.. some giving me taps up the date. Finally got away in 18th place!!

Managed to pull that back over the first two laps to get into 12th and then by halfway around lap 3 I was in 9th and on the tail of 8th.. until, on lap 4 I was watching the car ahead.. silly old frt.. and missed a turn-in causing a rather painful meeting with the wall. Stuffed the front left tyre and had to drag it around 3/4 of a lap to the pits.

Still okay though, as I did the CPS and went back out to run as close to my PB as I could which got me back from 14th to 9th again and on the final lap I was catching the flying corvette ahead in laeps and bounds.. except for the straight bits. Then I made the same mistake again of watching the car ahead, had a few slips and slides but was only 1.2 seconds behind as we crossed the finish line.

So that was my best finish in the KSR Series with a 9th place at Nords for my effort. Was in 18th place on their ladder (34 entrants) so will wait a couple of days to see if I picked up any spots out of tonight.

I won't be running their next series as it is Toyota thing's (AE somethings) and they don't interest me in the slightest.

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